RV Show Survival Guide – Episode 5: RVing with Joe & Kait

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RV Show Survival Guide

Resources Mentioned in this Episode

• List of RV Shows around the U.S. and Canada
• Florida RV SuperShow in Tampa
• RV Tours/Walk-Throughs
• RV Shopping Videos
• RV Gear and Accessories
• One-on-One Coaching
• We’re the Russos YouTube Channel
• Newsletter sign up
• Book 1: Take Risks
• Book 2: Tales From the Open Road

Key Highlights

• Our First RV Show Experience: take a trip down memory lane to our first RV show.
• Tips for Large RV Shows: strategies for tackling the vastness of large RV shows, emphasizing the importance of focus and planning to make the experience enjoyable and productive.
• RV Show Dynamics: we break down the structure of RV shows, explaining the roles of dealers, manufacturers and the RVs on display.
• Our RV Show Survival Guide: tips for attending RV shows, including essential items to bring and how to effectively document your visit.
• Salespeople and Manufacturer Reps: experiences with different salespeople and the value of talking to manufacturer reps at RV shows.
• RV Shows as a Research Tool: using RV shows for in-depth research and how hands-on experiences with different RVs can inform your buying decision.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to RV Shows
01:23 First RV Show Experience
05:06 Exploring Different Types of RVs
08:04 What to Expect at an RV Show
11:28 RV Accessories and Components at RV Shows
12:56 Negotiating Prices at RV Shows
14:19 Salespeople at RV Shows
17:08 Benefits of Attending RV Shows
19:30 Getting the Best Deals at RV Shows
20:29 RV Show Survival Guide
25:39 Talking to Manufacturer Reps
28:57 Researching RV Dealerships
30:20 Recommended RV Shows
31:14 One-on-One Coaching for RV Shopping

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Transcript

Joe Russo Welcome back to another episode of RVing with Joe and Kait. Today we’re gonna be talking about RV shows. Yes, they can be overwhelming, big, and scary. Well, not really scary, but you know what I’m saying.

Kait Russo And a lot of fun, let’s not forget the fun.

Joe Russo So I thought the best way to start off this podcast is telling you a story about our first RV show experience.

Kait Russo Now my memory’s not that great, but I believe our very first RV show was in 2014.

Joe Russo Correct.

Kait Russo We were shopping for an RV and had never been to a show before and just decided to go and see as many RVs as we could.

Joe Russo Now to give you some background information. We had decided at this point that we wanted a RV that we were going to live in full time for one year. We had some certain requirements. I think at the time we were pretty much sold on a Class A motorhome.

We had been to some dealers before. So we had looked at some Class As, but we thought the best thing to do would be to go to the Pomona RV show. This was out in California. Unfortunately, they don’t do this show anymore. And the idea was for us to go through the show, look at the different Class As, and kind of settle on the one.

We figured that by the end of this RV show, we would know exactly which RV we wanted. And I will say right up front that we walked out of that show more confused and probably took 10 steps backwards from where we were. Would you agree?

Kait Russo Yes. I remember that show being very overwhelming. And at the time we had no reference with regards to RV shows. And little did we know we were walking into one of the largest RV shows available in the country. I mean, they took over an entire fairground and all the big RV dealers in the area brought their new model year RVs and put them on display. And I saw RVs that I hadn’t even considered that were all of a sudden on my list. And as you like to joke, I have a tendency of walking into the really expensive RVs.

Joe Russo Well, Kait does this with anything, but particularly with RVs, I remember walking into the show and Kait walks into the Winnebago Grand Tour. Which, I think the one we were looking at was 42 feet, like a luxury Class A motorhome, and if I remember correctly, back in 2014, it was like half a million dollars. And Kait’s eyes just lit up.

I mean, there were couches in there. There was this gorgeous like tile floor. They had ceiling fans. It had a bathroom and a half. Big king bed. Like all the luxury you could imagine. And Kait had this smile on her face. And she was like, yes, we found the one. But there was no way we could afford a half a million dollar motorhome. And then, like, it was, everything after that was kind of downhill, right?

Kait Russo I don’t know if it was downhill, but I had no idea there was such a wide range when it came to RVs in terms of, like, how basic you can be and how luxury you can go. And it just opened my eyes to something that I wasn’t considering and for good reason because that was not in our budget.

The difficulty of having walked into an RV like that and then looking at other options we were considering is now all of a sudden I was comparing all the other RVs to this RV and kind of the fancy lighting and gadgets and the little like automatic close drawers and things like that.

Joe Russo And then in comparison, you walk into a much more basic motorhome and all of a sudden the wall material is very different. You don’t get the really nice tile, you don’t get the nice like solid countertops, the bath and a half, you know, king bed, those sorts of things.

But that was only one aspect. The other thing is, as we’re walking through this RV show, if you’ve never been to an RV show, just imagine a giant, like essentially, a parking lot the size of one that you would find at a football, baseball stadium, but bigger, just completely full of RVs. And as you’re walking through, you begin to see RVs that, as Kait mentioned, you may never have even considered.

Class Cs, we saw vans, we saw trailers, and our curiosity got the best of us. So we started walking into all these different RVs and we were looking at all these different things and we had like kind of talked and game planned before we went in there and that was we were gonna go in like we had a notepad, we were gonna write down like which RVs we wanted and then by the end of the show hopefully we would narrow it down to like three and then we’d go out and buy that RV.

What ended up happening was by the time we walked out of that show we were so completely overwhelmed by everything we saw, we forgot half of what was there. We didn’t remember walking into certain RVs or everything started to kind of blend together. I mean, even looking at RVs, we would never consider.

I remember specifically there was a Sportsmobile there, their Classic, which was like this really cool Ford van with giant wheels, four wheel drive, and it looked like something out of an action movie. And I was like, yes, that’s awesome. We would never buy it but I spent all my time looking at it and it’s not even something we’re considering.

Kait Russo Yeah, we did not give ourselves enough time to take it all in. Looking back, we should have gone on a kind of overview walkthrough of the RV show just to familiarize ourselves with the landscape and then gone back the next day with kind of a game plan and focusing on what we really wanted to accomplish and see at the show.

Joe Russo Yes, we should have planned a few days, we should have looked up RVs that were going to be at the show, or at companies that were gonna be there, and kind of pick out certain models that we wanted to go see and really focus on, and try to limit the number of RVs that we saw on a given day, because again, things really started to blend together.

I mean, there’s only so many RVs you can walk in after a time and remember that like this one had to self-closing drawers this one didn’t. I like the toilet on that one I didn’t like the bathroom in that. And after a while you’re like, I can’t remember.

Kait Russo That specific RV show was very big and we just went to a smaller RV show in Kentucky that was a fraction of the size. That felt a lot less overwhelming because they didn’t have as many units there. I feel like that smaller RV show a day would have been perfect. We would have had enough time to do multiple loops and take a lunch break, go back in the afternoon and tackle those projects or goals that you want to accomplish at the RV show.

When you go to a big RV show like the one we went to or the Tampa SuperShow or the Hershey Show, you’ve got to have a game plan and give yourself at least two days.

Joe Russo So let’s talk a bit about what an RV show is. I think it’s obvious that it’s there to show off all the different manufacturers RVs, but I had some misconceptions and we’ve been to so many RV shows now that I think we can give you a really good overview of what to expect.

So first off, an RV show is essentially a collection of RV dealers in that area. So what’s happening is all of those RV dealers are bringing in their inventory, putting them on display at the show, and everything is for sale. Well, almost everything.

Now there will be manufacturer’s reps that show up, like from Winnebago, Thor, all those different brands. They’ll be there at some of the displays, but they typically do not have their own display there. They might be part of another dealer or something like that, or they’ll just be roaming around.

When you walk through, all the RVs you’re seeing are from different dealers. They’re all for sale. You can walk in all of them. And if you want to walk out, talk to one of the sales people and buy it right there on the spot.

Kait Russo There are RV manufacturers though, who don’t sell through dealers. They’ll sell to customers direct and when they attend an RV show, then you’re dealing directly with the manufacturer and you can buy from them and their sales team versus through an RV dealer.

Joe Russo And there are times where you will get dealers like that and they will bring out examples of things that they make that may not necessarily be for sale, but you can custom order them.

For example, Sportsmobile. Most of their business is custom. You have to call and place an order with them. When we’ve gone to the RV shows, we’ve seen that they have vans for sale at the show, but typically they’re there to show you what they’re capable of doing and then sell you essentially a custom van that you create with them.

Kait Russo And some RV manufacturers have custom colors or schemes or different layouts. So just because the RVs that are on display don’t quite fit your needs, if you can see on the manufacturer’s website that they have different layouts, you can always custom order what you want.

Joe Russo Or find it at another dealer. The other thing they have at RV shows are accessories and different components for RVs. So you’ll find different vendors typically in halls or in like they’ll set up tents and you can walk through there and they will have all sorts of stuff from like RV tank treatment to different accessories for slides, lubricants, anything you can imagine for an RV, you can probably get in an RV show, along with like beef jerky, campgrounds, all sorts of other stuff.

Kait Russo I will say that those types of non-RV related booths are more popular and more prevalent at the bigger RV shows. When we’ve gone to the smaller, more regional RV shows, that tends to be a very small segment of the show. It’s primarily, the focus is on the RVs and moving those units.

Joe Russo Yeah, and you will find that when you go into an RV show, most of the RVs, if not all of them, will have a show price on the RV, which will appear to be a huge discount off the MSRP. Now the rule of thumb with RVs is, generally, you should expect to get about 20 to 30 % off the MSRP price.

So don’t think that the show price is only gonna be at the show and you’ll never be able to get the RV at that price again, because you can always go to a dealer and negotiate with them and usually get the same price, if not better than the show price. And at RV shows, you can negotiate if you’re looking to buy a unit.

Kait Russo And almost all RV dealers around the country list their units for sale on websites like RV Trader that anyone with internet access can look up. So when you find yourself at an RV show and you see a particular unit you really like and you’re not quite sure about the price at the show, you can always look up that same unit online, see what other dealers around the country are selling it for and use that in your negotiations.

Joe Russo Yeah, perfect example of that was we were at a smaller RV show looking at an RV. I think we had actually test driven it and we really liked it. And I looked at the price, I went online and checked and found that that same dealer had the price listed on their website less than what they had it listed for at the show and the salesperson at the show is trying to tell me this is the lowest price they’ll ever offer this RV at and everything else and I pulled up my phone and I said, well, the RV at the dealership is being sold for less than what you’re trying to sell for me now.

Really do your due diligence and make sure that if you do plan to buy something, you’re researching and you know where that price should be.

Another thing we found is as you’re walking around and you’re shopping for RVs, you will get any number of salespeople coming up wanting to get your business. There are a lot of RV salespeople who only go to RV shows. So they’re not necessarily affiliated with that dealership. What the dealership will do is to get extra hands. There are these essentially freelancers who they hire to come to the show and sell RVs for them. So if you’re working with someone at a show, they may not necessarily work at the dealership that is local to the area.

If you find a salesperson that you’re working with that you really like, keep working with that person. If you have someone, you’re not getting a good vibe from them, you just don’t like the interactions you’re having with them, say, you know what, sorry, I don’t think we can do business today, walk away, find someone else, because there are a lot of people there, some you’re gonna vibe with, some you won’t.

Kait Russo And some of these salespeople don’t know the RVs very well. So it is up to us as customers and consumers to really know the specs of the RVs that we’re looking at and understanding the tank capacity, the battery capacity. Does it have an inverter? How big is it? What’s the actual towing capacity? Not what the salesperson is saying. Because unfortunately we’ve met people who’ve been sold RVs that don’t have the right towing capacity and now they’re finding themselves having to buy a different vehicle because the one they thought they could tow with or could be towed can’t.

Joe Russo That is a fantastic point. We’ve met all sorts of salespeople and once we really got into the RV space and we were seriously considering buying one and I start doing my research. I met very few salespeople when I walked in who knew more about the RV than I did. I’d done my research, I knew what I wanted, and a lot of times what they were telling me was incorrect. And I don’t want to say they were necessarily lying to me, but I think what they were trying to do is come up with an answer rather than saying, I don’t know.

Use an RV show to really see what speaks to you. Use it as a time to go in a lot of these RVs, sit down in them, spend some time, use the couch like go in the shower and pretend to take a shower. See if it’s big enough for you. Open the drawers. Kind of really play house in there to see if it fits you and your needs and what you’re looking for.

When you’re serious about and ready to buy, come back and have a very good knowledge of the RV that you’re interested in. Take a break, go back, look up the stats, understand what components it has, what options it has, are the options you’re looking for on the model at the show that you wanna buy. If not, take a break and you can always contact a dealer and get that custom ordered or see if they can get it on the lot for you.

Kait Russo I really see RV shows as a tool in part of the buying process or shopping process because while we can do all this research online of the specs and see the layout, watch walk-through videos. Being able to walk through different types of RVs gives me an appreciation for different quality levels. And it becomes very apparent after you go through 10, 15 units of very similar RVs by different manufacturers and different price points. They smell different, they feel different, they look different in person.

Joe Russo Yeah, I mean, if you just start tapping on walls, opening drawers, you’ll notice where some drawers are simply stapled together, others are dovetailed. Pay really close attention where, let’s say some of the wallpaper that they put on is peeling off or trim is falling off, and you go in other units and everything is buttoned up and it looks good. Those are all things to really look at and consider.

And again, use the RV show to see a whole bunch of brands, meet different dealers, meet different salespeople, and then you can always come back later and buy the RV through the dealership and not necessarily from the show.

Kait Russo Because when you think about a big RV show like the Tampa SuperShow and the tens of thousands of people that are going through it and those people going through the RVs that are for sale. My personal preference is to not buy a RV that’s been displayed at an RV show with that much traffic. Unless it’s just an amazing deal, which I’ve not seen. I would much rather have something that came from the manufacturer to the dealership. It’s only been shown a few times and it hasn’t been trekked through.

Joe Russo Exactly. Now let’s talk about some of those good deals because we have been at these RV shows working with dealers. So we’ve gone to do meet and greets and different things and we’ve gotten some, let’s say, behind the scenes information about how the sales process and everything works. And these dealerships are trying to sell as many RVs at these shows as they can. One, because it costs them a lot to go to these shows. I mean, they have to drive out every RV. They have to hire all these sales people to come out and it’s a lot of money for them out of pocket to go to these shows.

So, if you’re really looking for a deal and you find the perfect RV at a show, usually the first couple days are not the best days to try and buy it because they know they still have a lot of show left to sell that RV. Now, if that RV is still sitting on the lot the last day or two, they’re gonna be much more eager to sell it to you then and much more willing to make a better deal on it. And one more they can say they sold at the show.

Kait Russo So Joe and I have put together sort of a RV show survival guide on our website that we’ve been continually updating because we’ve been to our fair share of RV shows and really wanting to share those tips with you all. So do you want to go through some of those things?

Joe Russo Yeah, I say let’s talk about them on here. And if you have more questions, you can head over to our website look at the post, leave a comment, ask your question there, or go to the contact form on our website and send us the question directly.

Kait Russo What are some things that people should bring to an RV show?

Joe Russo First, you have to see what the weather is going to be like, especially if the show is outside. We just came back from the Louisville RV show and it was inside, so we didn’t have to worry about the inclement weather. But when we went to RV shows out in California, Florida, especially the Tampa show, the weather can change. It can be 90 degrees or it can be pouring down rain. So you have to be prepared for that if you’re gonna be outside all day long looking at these RVs.

Bring sunscreen, bring lots of water. Usually they have vendors there selling food and drinks and that sort of thing, but make sure you have all the things that you need.

And I would say on top of that, since you are gonna be going into different RVs, bring a notebook or some way to take notes. If you have your cell phone with you, which I’m assuming you will take photos videos of ones you like and one thing that I found very helpful is If you have someone with you or even yourself make a video and talk about the name of the RV.

So what we would do is we would come in we would take a photo of the The sales sticker so we got the price and we had all the information on the model the floor plan everything else and then we would either make a video or take photos going through the RV of things that we really liked. And if we were making a video, we would talk about it so that we could go back, watch that video later, and remember it.

Kait Russo I almost wanna say that’s kind of how we started doing walk-through videos on our YouTube channel. Yeah, that’s exactly what happened. We were shopping for all kinds of RVs, from our first one to subsequent ones we’ve owned now, and one of our very first videos, I don’t think it’s up anymore, was of a Class A motorhome, a used one that we were considering, and we said to ourselves, especially because I have a limited memory, that let’s just make a video and we’ll be able to remember all the features and specs.

Joe Russo Yeah, that’s exactly what happened.

Another thing I like to bring if I have it is a tape measure. Especially if you’re going in and you’re looking at customizing things, you just want a better idea of the size and the layout.

Another thing I always have with me is a flashlight. Especially if I’m looking at used RVs. Now, I know we’re talking about RV shows and all the RVs at RV shows tend to be new. Dealers don’t bring out used units, but if you’re at a dealership or sometimes there are people in a parking lot who are selling used RVs you always wanna have a flashlight with you.

The reason for this is, for example, we were at a dealership looking at a used Numar, and inside it looked great. It looked like the thing was brand new, really well taken care of, the paint outside was nice, and the price was just too low on it for me to say, what’s wrong with this? The price was kind of bringing up red flags.

So I climbed up on the roof, I was looking at the roof, making sure that all the caulking, everything looked good. And then I start opening the bays, and this was a diesel pusher, so it had these big pass through bays, so you could open a door from one side and go all the way to the other.

Well, I climbed in there with my flashlight, and I started shining it around, and what I noticed was the screws that they used to hold the carpet down in the bays were rusted. And I pulled up the carpet in the corner and it looked like the RV had been in a flood and water had come up to a certain point. You could see across the whole bay of the RV where that water line was. And if I hadn’t had my flashlight, I never would have noticed that.

So when you’re going through these things, you wanna check them and make sure that, you know, even new RVs, make sure that everything looks good. If there are any problems, use your notepad, make notes of them because if you buy that RV you’re gonna want the dealer to rectify all those problems before you take delivery.

Kait Russo I think having a game plan for the show. So what is the purpose of going to the RV show? And it could be as simple as, hey, we have a free day this weekend and there’s an RV show, let’s go check it out and see what there is. Or if you’re serious about buying an RV and you wanna check out some of the units you’re considering, then write those down and maybe make a grid of information you want to collect about each of those RVs so that you can kind of stay on track when you’re there and not get too distracted by other things that are going on. For example, like the bourbon tasting that was going on at the Louisville RV show or the little dog show game that was happening right next to all the RV displays.

Joe Russo Yeah, I have noticed a tendency at the RV shows for there to be a lot of alcohol vendors because they get you nice and lubed up and it’s a lot easier to make a sale. Personally, I don’t think I would ever buy an RV from an RV show. One of the reasons was that, as Kate mentioned, that you have all these people walking through the RV that you’re going to buy.

And even after you buy it, most of the time, aside from putting a sold sticker in the window, the dealers will still leave the RV open for people to walk through so they can see that model and say, hey, if you like this, this one’s sold, but I can get you another one.

The other thing is, if you go to the RV show and you really like an RV, if it’s a motorized unit and you wanna test drive it, a lot of the times, you’re not gonna be able to do that. Unless they have, sometimes they have overflow lot with models that once they sell one, they’ll move it out and put the other one in. Sometimes they have those and you can go out and drive it. Most of the time they do not. At the dealer lot though, if you find an RV you like, you’re ready to buy it, but you wanna drive it first, you can absolutely do that at the RV dealership.

Kait Russo And take advantage of the manufacturer reps. So that’s a question I like to ask is, is there a manufacturer rep here for this product? Especially if it’s one I’m interested in. And if the answer is yes, then you have an opportunity to connect with someone who works at the manufacturer and who has more accurate and well hopefully more accurate and up to date information about the product that you’re interested in versus just talking to a salesperson.

Joe Russo Yeah, that’s a great point too because a lot of manufacturer reps that we’ve talked to will not only tell you about the RV, but you’ll get a lot of history behind the model sometimes and a lot of times they know how that RV is manufactured so they can walk you through the RV and point out little details, things they might do differently than their competitor.

For example, that’s how we found out about some manufacturers dovetail their cabinets or their drawers because we had a manufacturer rep walk us through and show us the drawers. They’re really proud of these drawers and the way they built them because they wouldn’t come apart after a lot of years. And you’ll start to pick up a lot of information talking to different reps and people that you don’t get from salespeople.

Kait Russo And if you happen to be attending an RV show that also has on-site camping, like the Florida Super Show, where they have giant groups based on manufacturers sometimes, of customers camping on-site, you can go walk around, meet the people who own the camper that you’re considering, and most of the time, they’re more than happy to share as much information as you are willing to listen to.

Joe Russo Sometimes too much.

Kait Russo About their camper, likely give you a tour, the things that they’ve loved, the things that they wish they had done differently or knew about, modifications they’ve made. So really take advantage of that aspect of an RV show.

Joe Russo And going back to the research phase, also research the different RV dealerships that are going out and you should start to research look up reviews see what other people are saying about them because not all RV dealerships are created equal. Some are better than others some have better customer service better RV support and everything else.

That’s something to consider if you’re going to buy from an RV show is Is that dealer local to you if you have a problem? Are they gonna stand behind the product and get you in for warranty repairs? Some dealers will actually put you in priority if you buy from them. And that being said, let’s say you buy from a dealer out of state that doesn’t have a location local to you. If you have to go to a local RV dealership for warranty work, they might put you at the end of the queue because they have all of their customers who bought from them who get priority.

Kait Russo And we do keep an updated list of RV shows in the United States and Canada. So if you are looking for an RV show to attend, you can go to our website and look up the RV show list and find one near you. Or maybe you decide to take a long weekend, fly out to Florida or Pennsylvania for one of the bigger RV shows.

Joe Russo Yeah, I would say if you have the opportunity, the Tampa RV show, I would say, is the best in the country that we’ve seen. There are performers, there’s food, there’s all sorts of vendors. Pretty much everything in the RV world is, almost all of it is at that show.

Now that being said, if you are looking for your first RV, I do offer one-on-one consulting. So if you need help trying to figure out, you know, what is the right RV for me, what things should I consider, what haven’t I thought about, those types of questions. I can get on the phone with you for an hour and kind of walk through everything with you and really help you start to narrow down what is the right RV for you or answer any other questions you might have about RVing. If you’re interested in that, go to our website, weretherussos.com and in the top menu you will see a button for coaching. Just click that, fill out the form and I will get back to you.

Kait Russo I remember going through the process of buying our first RV and having never RV’d before, it was very overwhelming. I wish I could have called Joe now to get some feedback and tips.

Joe Russo I think a lot of it, to me at the time, it was almost scary because an RV is a big investment. I was thinking about all the things I didn’t know or didn’t know to ask and looking back on it, how naive I was about that whole process and how much we’ve learned in the subsequent years and just talking to manufacturers, talking to dealers, talking to salespeople, having used all different types of RVs and all those things and all that information that I’m able to kind of help you in your process of going through all of this. And that’s really my goal.

Kait Russo And for people who just want to do the research on their own, we’ve provided a lot of resources and sharing tips and things we’ve learned along the way in the form of blog posts, now podcast episodes, but also over on our YouTube channel, we have a whole shopping series to kind of help people decide what might be the better option or just things to consider.

But if you don’t want to do all that research and you would just like to have kind of a consolidated call to be able to pick Joe’s brain about RVing, whether it’s shopping, buying, using. I think that the hour is a really good use of time and especially based on the feedback we’ve gotten from people who’ve talked to you, they’ve definitely have found great value in that.

Joe Russo And sometimes I’m just a really good resource to bounce ideas off of. Like the last woman I spoke to, she had I think 10 or 12 questions listed out and things that she was completely sold on but wanted to talk to someone about them who understood. And by the time we ended the conversation, she, I wouldn’t say completely changed her direction, but I had opened her eyes to a lot of things that she may not have considered.

And coming out of that call, she said, you know, I saved a lot of money talking to you because you were able to walk me through some things that would have been pitfalls and I couldn’t quite see.

So that’s me tooting my own horn. Again, if you guys are interested in that coaching, just head on over to our website, weretherousos.com and that coaching button is in the top menu.

Kait Russo We’ll also list all of the resources we mentioned in this podcast episode in the show notes. So you can get to our list of RV shows. You can find one near you, RV show survival guide, all the good stuff.

Joe Russo Yeah, and if you want to kind of read about the year and a half that Kait and I took to, well when she came up with the idea for us to full time on the road, all the way to the first day on the road, so us going to that first RV show, working through the process of quitting our jobs, selling the house, finding the perfect RV and getting set up for that lifestyle, you can check out my first book, Take Risks, and that is available on Amazon pretty much anywhere else you can buy books, but we will leave a link to it in the show notes.

Kait Russo Thank you for tuning in to another episode of RVing with Joe & Kait. We loved having you along and hope to see you on the road.